Audi R8 Spyder 2008

[philnolan3d]

I'm just playing with the idea of sculpting a car, Had some trouble due to bugs in the Surface tools. It will be a lot easier when the multi-resolution is implemented.

[Javis]

Yeah at the moment serious hard surface sculpting is a little out of bounds, until the multi-res is active.

Anyway, did you model this in LW and merge to voxels?

[philnolan3d]

I started with this LightWave model and merged it into voxels.

The rest is sculpted. Except it was a little lumpy and hard to smooth, that's where the multi-res would come in, so I retopo'd the whole thing and merged it back in from the retopo. That smoothed out the lumps.

[splodge]

That's actually very nice!. I'm impressed with the general form of it. Really nice modeling.

ps - I'm sure you could get even sharper edges if you separate some of those parts, like the doors for example. But you know this already as I've seen your girlie model with the strappy dress.

[philnolan3d]

lol Yes you're right I probably should be going about it differently. Thanks though

[Marc Wakefield]

That's nice Phil, really smooth.

I cant wait for multi-res either. I need it soooo much.

[chris_solo]

o_O! very NICE work Phil!!

Could you make a video of the process when you have the time because it would be really useful!

[philnolan3d]

Thanks. I'll have to see if I remember how I did it. Really I have blueprint background images set up and I used curves to cut the lines in, then SF Extrude to indent where the glass is. I would have liked to use a couple of other Surface tools but was having trouble with them. Luckily those problems were solved in the 3.2 update.

[chris_solo]

thanks for the infos really help

[philnolan3d]

Like this:

Sorry I was going to add this to the last post but you responded too quick,

[philnolan3d]

Putting Free-form Primitives to good use:

[kay_Eva]

And that is why I would like for 3d Coat to have a cursor so that you can more easily place your primitives in your scene rather than using the manipulator and so you can align primitives and voxel objects occurding to the placement of the cursor object as in Blender.

Oh but not to talk about that. Just seeing your primitive use reminded me of how awkward the placement of them can be sometimes.

And the car looks awesome

[philnolan3d]

Hmm, thanks. I don't have any trouble placing primitives. I still don't understand how a cursor would help, It's just like the brush, except an arrow instead of a circle.

[Taros]

Like this:

Sorry I was going to add this to the last post but you responded too quick,

You are really crazy phil... sculpting a car in 3DC.

Imagine you could use the reference image as a projection for the voxel tools?! Like a mask. This would be a great feature. What do you think?

[philnolan3d]

That's an interesting idea. Ever since I first heard about voxels I had thought of doing a car because that's how they design real cars, with a life size clay model

, I've just been waiting for voxels to catch up to he point where it could be done.

[chris_solo]

Thanks Phil for tips!!

it's true that we don't necessarily think all functions, it is still full of things to see as the extraction of normal map with a low and high, UV mapping still unknown to me at the moment I uses UVlayout for it...

[parel]

I think that you can easily see why 3dcoat can be frustrating for design work. So much potential, but the tools to manipulate voxels do not give the control to create clean fair surfaces. Andrew is doing a lot though so...hopefully in the future.

Thanks for posting. Please include a video of rough techniques if possible.

PS Your cut-lines are a little too pronounced/wide. Might be OK for a HotWheels model though.

[rimasson]

The model isn't perfectly smooth, but it's impressive !!!

[philnolan3d]

Your cut-lines are a little too pronounced/wide. Might be OK for a HotWheels model though.

Yeah this was due to my voxel count still being fairly low. Right now I'm still at only about 2 million tri's. Frankly I've been getting a little frustrated with it and last night before bed was considering just scrapping it and modeling the car with regular polys. Been a while since I've done a serious LightWave model anyway.

[geo_n]

That's pretty cool. When I bought 3dc I always wanted to do cars because of the freeform approach and traditional car design would actually sculpt in real clay. Maybe its getting there.

[philnolan3d]

Thanks. Unfortunately I probably won't be able to finish it at all now that I'm starting this big new job.

[chris_solo]

Phil, I hope to see it finish after your big work because, I like this project!

so good luck for your work

cheers

[philnolan3d]

Thanks. We'll see. It's an awful lot of work to keep these clean edges. Basically a whole lot of sculpt, retopo, sculpt, retopo, etc.

[philnolan3d]

Alright I basically gave up on doing the car in 3DC it was just too much work and too much time. So I started over in LightWave. I did however decide to do the tires in 3DC.

[geo_n]

Thats too bad. What was the hardest part about it? Making hard edges and seams can't be done with booleans?

[philnolan3d]

The hard edges were... hard. But really smoothing out the lumps was the hardest part. Obviously a car body needs to be extremely smooth. Not to mention the poly count was starting to get very high already. The sharp edges need a higher poly count, but that same count covers the large smooth and flat areas too.

BTW here's a WIP shot of the LightWave version. I have since filled in the missing spot on the side:

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1719/audir8wip05.jpg

[philnolan3d]

Here's the tire decimated to 72,965 polys and in LW. (Started with 12m polys)

Edited February 18, 2010 by philnolan3d
Had the wrong poly count, doubled the number.

[ditus]

very clean! in overall i love the idea of doing a car shape out of voxel! and your car looks so far very cool.

[kenmo]

Damn nice...any video on this?

Many thanks....

[philnolan3d]

Of what, the tires? There may have been but it's so long ago now I don't remember.