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Should 3DCoat integrate an Industry Standard Render Engine?
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Reasons why i don't upgrade this year 1 2 3
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but its not what 3dcoat is about ... 3dcoat is for creation , the stage 1-3 of creation the rendering and animation is else where ... implementing this sort of thing would take ages(animation) the render engine again im not too fussed , i prefer alot of outsie engines like marmoset toolbag / unreal engine 5 however to use renderman,octane or vray ... these are paid for ... the can implement them but not give them away for free to be fair unreal engine is so close now and produces real time results too .. what more do you need? -
If that's the case, it would be incredible. Sign me up. -
it would use the exact same method used by zbrush , zmodeller has hundreds of tools in their right click menu, it would jsut save constantly moving from one room to another , for ease of use for new people or people who like to work in one room ...
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Yeah I'm definitely not a fan of the 4 different types of meshes. Problem is how can one organize the UI in a way where the tools are not scattered all over the place. Just looking in the modeling room, the left tool panel is filled to the brim. Combining that with sculpt tools may be problematic. Maybe keep the separate rooms, but make it easier to manipulate meshes between rooms? -
The UI will be divided for the foreseeable future because the code base is not something you can totally replace overnight. The workspaces are there for different stages of a typical studio pipeline and thus, I see no major problem with it. Some consolidation of a few workspaces, yes, but from what I understand it would take way too much development time for too little benefit....when there are hundreds of standing user requests for other features. Andrew has already done a LOT to improve the UI and there is more to come, but it will be an ongoing, incremental effort of improvement rather than a major overhaul. -
can you remove modelling room and retopo room and have all meshes inside sculpt room , and have modelling and retopology tools as a separate tool , with that the right click would be a pie menu with the selection type at the top like vertex,edge,face then below would be the tool you wish to use , the right side could have the current right click menu where you can relax,clear points etc and left side left clear for quickmenus maybe? the mesh could be saved as P for polygroups ... and once youve modelled something you can then voxelize it or go into surface mode where SUBD would work nicely having these in one room just saves the hassle and tidies up and simplifies things
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why does the ui need a major makeover in order for an upgrade? ... if you can use 3dcoat that should matter .. the ui would bring in alot of new custom but at the minute its not massively important , you are right about the modelling room though 100%%%% hopefully they can work with a polygon modeller and have a good workflow
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By Just a user · Posted
I see you guys are still working hard on this amazing tool, you added some black magic level of functionality its truly amazing. no other program have this features. personally i dont need them but i can appreciate the innovation. I came to see how is the development doing, i see that none of my suggestions has been adopted. UI is still divided, modeling room still require two times the clicks to do the same operations compared to maya or blender or modo. still have a separated select tool for some reason and no major tools that are using context sensitive approach. UI is still designed with a lot of text and its still a major problem in the smart materials workflow For now I continue with my 2022 version for sculpting and auto retopo, its still amazing for that. i love it. But I still wont upgrade until the UX will go thru a major makeover. sorry guys .. -
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Yes, also MOI have that option. I asked Andrew recently to add that feature. If you are interested, it would be good to send him a feature request.
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Thanks for the info, but the question I raised isn't really about alternative OpenSource render engines. It's about integration of a major render engine that everyone knows well. This company also has a separate real time render engine. Perhaps that could be the one that gets integrated, instead. As for the work on the current render engine, I think that was shelved while the developer is working on something else.
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Something built with Godot is another option. It was my understanding that a render engine was in the works for 3D Coat, what is the progress on that? Has it been shelved?
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It would be awesome. I would settle for something like a realtime Sketchfab integration though. Which is actually something that could be easily achieved using Babylonjs which is a free open source webgl/webgpu game and rendering framework. It's basically Sketchfab, but free and with real interaction if you want to do some coding. https://editor.babylonjs.com/ - an electron based editor for Babylonjs made by someone in the community https://doc.babylonjs.com/features/featuresDeepDive/postProcesses - about Babylonjs render pipeline https://playground.babylonjs.com/#Y3C0HQ#146 - a Sketchfab style demo complete with post process fx that is easily integrated in a webpage for free.
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I wanted to open a discussion about the prospect of 3DCoat adding full integration of an Industry Standard Render Engine, without an extra addon fee. Chime in if you agree or disagree. Perhaps, Andrew will see the results and make a decision based on the community response. So, I will ask the question directly, if 3DCoat 2025 came with a renderer such as Octane, Renderman, VRay, etc. (without additional cost)....and with it, perhaps some modest (Camera) animation functionality...how excited would you be, or would you disapprove (although bug-fixing/stability work will never stop)? Also, if you were/are someone who is looking at 3DCoat for the first time or haven't upgraded since the 4.X versions, would the integration of this Industry Standard engine persuade you to buy a license or upgrade?
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