Member Guedin Posted May 3, 2009 Member Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hi there ! I'm a student in a Game Art School and my formation will end soon ... and when i said soon, it's like in 2 weeks So now, I'm working full time on my portfolio. Here's my main project, a character made for "next-gen" (well, at now we should say current gen) game All the modelling part was done in external software ( Zbrush and 3DSMax ). Even if 3DCoat seems to be really intuitive, I'm short on time and i didn't want to spare time in learning a new program. However, the texture tool in 3DCoat seems really efficient, so I decided to make at least the texture in 3DCoat. I create this topic because I was impressed by the demonstration of the 3DCoat tools and wanted to master it Critics and comment, and suggestion of workflow are welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 4, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Quick update on the cap I'm not fully happy right now with it but i'll rework it later I did all the stitch and seams with the curve tool and a custom alpha of stitch i made ... Curve tool is fantastic !!! Why other software did'nt think it before ? Now I can't live without this tool the little bump was done with the mask feature. In Max : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 5, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Seriously ! The more I use this program, the more I love it. Masks and material tool are really powerfull, as well as photoshop link I have a question : I noticed when i open the UV-Set window, I can display the flat texture in shaded mode, which give a really cool effect indeed ! Is there a way to bake it ? Because at the moment i'm making a print screen and paste it in my texture in photoshop, and it's not really accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted May 5, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 I have a question : I noticed when i open the UV-Set window, I can display the flat texture in shaded mode, which give a really cool effect indeed ! Is there a way to bake it ? Maybe not exactly what you want, but you may want to try these 3 options: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 5, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Yeah I already use this feature and it's some great tools ! But what I want is bake the lightning and shade information into my texture like the preview when you active the shaded mode in the UV set window Edit : Here's some shots Only the diffuse : And with the shade : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member -Shadow- Posted May 5, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Guedin If I understood correctly... File>Texture Baking Tool PS good start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted May 5, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Maybe you could make a feature request in "Feature Requests" board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 5, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Thks for the support ! -Shadow- : I already try this tool, but there's only options to bake normal map, displacement map or specular map. What I'm looking for is baking a complete map lc8b105 : Yeah, it's a good idea ... i'll post a suggestion later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member NinjaTaco Posted May 5, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Thks for the support !-Shadow- : I already try this tool, but there's only options to bake normal map, displacement map or specular map. What I'm looking for is baking a complete map lc8b105 : Yeah, it's a good idea ... i'll post a suggestion later Not sure 3dc has such a feature.. If you have access to maya, softimage, or cinema4d. All these have baking tools that should give you the options you want. In Softimage (xsi) it's located in properties under rendermap I think. Just remember that in this menu checking on means to disable (contrary to common thought, where checking on means to enable). Final gathering thought is not supported with rendermap. Cinema4d has bake Object which is my favorite baking tool at the moment because it's fast, you see the results as it goes, and you can do multiple sets of textures for multiple objects at a single time. It also has the older method bake texture. Maya also has good baking ability and final gathering does work with baking. It's a bit cumbersome though and it can crash very easily and when it crashes there is no easy way to tell. Not sure about 3dmax but it wouldn't surprise me if it did have baking tools, everthing else does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 5, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hi NinjaTaco, thx to take your time and post here Yeah 3DSMax has bake tool too, and do the pretty same things that the software you mentioned. But All this software bake the lightning information depending on the light position. I mean, if you put a light front of your object and bake the light in your texture, the chest will be enlighted but the back will be completely in the dark. If you check the image i posted right above, you can see that the chest and the back of my character receive the same amount of light, and thats what I want. I could put lights all around my models in max and bake the information tool ... but this is the ambient occlusion and I'll lose the direction of the light. Again in the image i posted you can see that fold cast shadow right under itself, showing that light have a up to down direction. I don't know if was clear enough ... but if it's not the case, feel free to ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 6, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I played a little with the render feature of the v0.81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Tanaka Posted May 6, 2009 Member Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Hi NinjaTaco, thx to take your time and post hereYeah 3DSMax has bake tool too, and do the pretty same things that the software you mentioned. But All this software bake the lightning information depending on the light position. I mean, if you put a light front of your object and bake the light in your texture, the chest will be enlighted but the back will be completely in the dark. If you check the image i posted right above, you can see that the chest and the back of my character receive the same amount of light, and thats what I want. I could put lights all around my models in max and bake the information tool ... but this is the ambient occlusion and I'll lose the direction of the light. Again in the image i posted you can see that fold cast shadow right under itself, showing that light have a up to down direction. I don't know if was clear enough ... but if it's not the case, feel free to ask me I would like to do the functions that you want, too. Images on texture editor in shaded mode is very good without difficult setting, but can not save as it is except captures. Though changing lights settings make the back lighter, but the colors and details become quite-different. Further I would like to save the images with colors, shades and specular as individual layer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 6, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Glad to see I'm not the only one who would love to see this feature in a next update. I'll definitely post in the feature suggestion post Another update, screen grab from 3DSMax viewport, no render, only realtime : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member mwgrafx Posted May 6, 2009 Member Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 This is looking good Guedin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 6, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Thanks mwgrafx ! I think I already see your nick on the gameartisans forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member mwgrafx Posted May 6, 2009 Member Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Yep, I like to think of Gameartisans as my home away from home. Really not active on polycount, though I do visit quite frequently. I'm a little like you with 3D-Coat. I wasn't sure because I didn't feel like learning a new program. I already felt comfortable with Max, Zbrush, and Photoshop. But I took the plundge anyway. I haven't looked back. Its like Photoshop on steroids IMO. I found easy to use with the new interface. It almost a one stop shop for all my modeling needs. I watched the demo's for mudbox 2009 and translated it to see if it can be done with 3DCoat. Most of it can and more for a fraction of the price. Im waiting with anticipation for the official release. Sorry to derail your post but I am intrested your final product. You got something good going on here. No real critique yet. Are you in the Dom War? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 6, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I was ... I did a concept, but my school will be ended soon and I had to make a strong portfolio. And I realized that warriors with big gun and big armor was not what I'm the most confident with. I prefer modeling casual character, with streat wear, or stuff like this, so I change the direction of the character i started for the Dominance War. I think it's better to make a piece that really show who I am and what is my style, instead of trying to stick with a background in order to participate to the Dominance War. If I didn't have to work on my portfolio i would do the dominance war to train myself doing other stuff that I used to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 7, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I start to work on the head, did I ever mention that 3DCoat is fantastic ? It help me work really fast I did some quick render too ... This is cool in the feeling but I'm loosing all the detail of the normal map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member GED Posted May 7, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 looking good, the lighting on the nose looks a bit odd, what are you rendering in now? max? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 7, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Yeah ... for now it's just a scanline render with 2 lights and a skylight. And yes, the nose is really odd, I just fixed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 8, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Quick test for turntable ... still 5 700 tris so far Turntable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 10, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Another update Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted May 10, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Sadly, YouTube was blocked by "Great Firewall" several moths ago. I can't see any video from it. Would you like to upload it to other platform for example vimeo.com ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 10, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 The first video is one which can be downloaded from my ftp. I will upload the second one from the same ftp tonight ... Maybe with another update Stay tuned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 12, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Ok Here's the turntable hosted on my ftp : Turntable v2 And here's a shot of the skateboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted May 12, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javis Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Nice work! Your texturing skills are really good, keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 12, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Thks mates ! Ah I forgot to mention but the render of the board was done with the renderer of 3DCoat ... And i was really impressed to see how simple but how good was the result ... The more I use 3DCoat the more I'm impressed ! If Andrew come here I want say to him that he has all my respect, 3DCoat is fantastic and I can't stop to talk about it atl my school, trying to push my buddies to make a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Guedin Posted May 13, 2009 Author Member Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Update form the Unreal Engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member mwgrafx Posted May 13, 2009 Member Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 This turned out really nice!! My only critique is his eyebrows are hard to read. Maybe a scruffy goatee or something to add extra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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