Advanced Member ifxs Posted June 2, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 its starting to seem that this 64bit build doesn't include some of the recent OSX fixes performed in the last few builds, I cant repeat the issues often enough, but If can later, I'll report them. I'm still constantly impressed with the speed gain ATI RADEON 5770, 16+gigs RAM, 8-core 2.8xeon now if only STRONG consideration would be given to OpenCL support, then I might not have to buy Mari (immediately ;-)) when the OSX version(of Mari) is released ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member moska Posted June 2, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 hi Sergyi now i have a 3D-Coat-V3 folder(the 32b)and a 3D-Coat-V3-5 folder (the 64b)in Applications. i was thinking about uninstaling and instal again 3DCoat,well may be both versions is it just drag the aplication folder on trash? and moving user data before that but what about the 3DCoat folder in the User? and other things and places like libraries prefs .xml? because i would like to use next 64b beta (with cmd/ctrl fixed) and as i told this beta is not opening most of the time,and i wonder why? may be is the beta itself but others use it or its my system or instalation somehow corrupted? thanks for your help and advise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted June 3, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 @moska I noticed that both apps are sharing the user's data 3dcfolder, but as I had some shaders in 3dc 32 bit (applications) from the past, I can't access them running 64 bit 3dc. Meaning that the 32 bit and 64 bit apps don't conflict. I think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor BeatKitano Posted June 3, 2011 Contributor Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 its starting to seem that this 64bit build doesn't include some of the recent OSX fixes performed in the last few builds, I cant repeat the issues often enough, but If can later, I'll report them. I'm still constantly impressed with the speed gain ATI RADEON 5770, 16+gigs RAM, 8-core 2.8xeon now if only STRONG consideration would be given to OpenCL support, then I might not have to buy Mari (immediately ;-)) when the OSX version(of Mari) is released ;-) You should have gone the green path, opencl on ati is a joke... You can buy mari if you want, it's useless without a pro card anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted June 3, 2011 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 its starting to seem that this 64bit build doesn't include some of the recent OSX fixes performed in the last few builds, I cant repeat the issues often enough, but If can later, I'll report them. I'm still constantly impressed with the speed gain ATI RADEON 5770, 16+gigs RAM, 8-core 2.8xeon now if only STRONG consideration would be given to OpenCL support, then I might not have to buy Mari (immediately ;-)) when the OSX version(of Mari) is released ;-) OpenCL support does not mean your ATI card will work with it. NVidia right now is the only card supporting both CUDA and OpenCL. ATI still hasn't gotten their act together in that regard. They are too busy selling gaming cards to...gamers. They could care less about CG content creation. That's just the reality of it. VRay 2 for 3ds Max utilizes OpenCL for it's RT (IPR) renderer, and there is still no ATI support. Works great on NVidia cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted June 3, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Nvidia is the only choice for the moment, I agree. +1 abn, BeatKitano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member LorenzoS Posted June 5, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Thanks for the 64bit build Andrew. Testing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member jwiede Posted June 8, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 First off, thanks again for 64-bit beta! Are either a 32-bit or 64-bit version of 3.5.20 for OSX expected anytime soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ifxs Posted June 10, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Is the plan to discontinue the 32-bit beta builds of 3DC for OSX? After using the 64bit version now for a while, I'd prefer not to use the 32bit build any longer(except for occasions that cause major crashes in the 64bit build, till they're fixed). As an aside, the ATI SDK for OpenCL came out some time ago. I personally prefer NVidia cards, I just happen to have an ATi card in the Mac that I do my 3DC work on. There are a number of external render engines & high-end compositing apps that support ATI cards for OpenCL acceleration, Eyeon Fusion, Octane Render, Luxrender, Indigo Render, and the list goes on. CUDA is great, just VERY proprietary IMO. has anyone in this thread seen/tested an Ati FirePro V8800, pretty darn decent competition with even a NVidia Qudro FX in SOME cases(if not many ;-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted June 11, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 As ifxs I also prefer to work on the 64 bit. I almost forgot the ctrl cmd issue. LOL No need to continue the 32 bit version for mac users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ifxs Posted June 11, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 lookin forward to OSX liveclay, in 64bit 3DC :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member LorenzoS Posted June 12, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 lookin forward to OSX liveclay, in 64bit 3DC :-) +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member The Candy-floss Kid Posted June 13, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Hello Mac users! 1. Regarding CTRL/CMD key. CTRL key will be enabled in the next build, but please specify, which button should CMD key duplicate – ALT or CTRL? Cntrl should stay as is Cmd - should invoke right click but if it has to duplicate then it should stay the same i.e duplicate cntrl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted June 15, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Right click using one button apple mouses is ctrl. Never cmd. Now let's forget this. Please! Old mac users, buy a decent logitech mouse (g5 is always the best) and lets work. From a mac only user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ifxs Posted June 16, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 from a professional app perspective, I'd suggest forgetting about DESKTOP users that are using single button mice, on any platform. Older mac laptops are a bit trapped in this perspective(due to the reliance on control to trigger a right click on VERY old macbooks/macbookpro's), so I see the need for possibly supporting them, for at least a bit longer. Aside from that though, if you're on a desktop, and you use a single button mouse(not even an apple mightymouse), I'd suggest you strongly consider an investment in a new mouse(even a 5$ 2 button USB mouse) before buying a pro app like 3DCoat ;-) P.S. any word on the release of the next build? I know Andrew's on vacation, just very eager to see more development on the 64bit branch, and test out some liveclay! in the meantime, its sculptris & meshmixer time ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted June 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 New beta will come together with 3.5.21. I plan to release 3.5.21 in the first half of next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member LorenzoS Posted June 19, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Thank you Andrew. You and crew are doing an awesome job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ifxs Posted June 20, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 thanks for the update Andrew, and thank you, as always, for your diligent work on developing this excellent tool for us all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member jwiede Posted June 27, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 New beta will come together with 3.5.21. I plan to release 3.5.21 in the first half of next week. Did this occur? I can't find where to download it, if so. The Mac link in the normal update thread still points to 19A as far as I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member LorenzoS Posted June 27, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 By next week, he meant this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted June 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Today I sent 3.5.21 to programmer, he will do build soo, I hope today or tomorrow if nothing too strange will happen. Last week update was failed because I had hope to include updated LC there, but it is essentially not ready. 3.5.21 will include only a bit updated LC, very last changes are to raw to be included in 3.5.21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member LorenzoS Posted June 27, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Good to hear Andrew. A taste of LC is enough for now. Thank you soo much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ifxs Posted July 3, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 has anyone heard anything on the new 64bit osx build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member jwiede Posted July 4, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 has anyone heard anything on the new 64bit osx build? Nope, and I was really hoping to have it available over the long weekend. Oh well, maybe sometime this week? Andrew, any word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I was talking today with Sergyi. He tries to fix one crash (color picker) but it is hard because debugger crashes too and there is no helpful info to solve it. I asked him to make build today anyway. So he will do new build today regardless on will be this problem solved or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 The link on the first page updated to 3.5.21. The bug I mentioned was fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member LorenzoS Posted July 4, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Where do I find the Live Clay tool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member moska Posted July 5, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 so far,so good! thanks a lot to Andrew and Sergey@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Where do I find the Live Clay tool? Edit->Preferences->Use beta tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted July 5, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Thank you! A small confusion though. Is this beta installer the same with the other on betas thread? Are both 64 bit? Crashing! Use voxels sculpting / jump to surf-mode-liveclay / pick another surf-tool. Now liveclay again (you can't access lc parameters anymore). Nevermind, back to voxels mode. Press LC tool, parameters visible again, back to surfmode, crashing. Update: ctrl use is back, great. Voxel mode is great in 64bit build. All I need for the moment and back again in 3dc sculpting LOL I missed something, 1 why the need of LC? I still don't get it. 2 smooth tool is so weak... 3 pinch tool... OK, I'll ask again for something similar to zb or better, sculptris behavior of tools. 4 Dynamic tessellation in sculptris is so superior. It's a whole different world. It's faster and precise. Even faster after some edits in Sc config.txt. Up to 2 M, too much for dynamic tessellation. Close DT then and work as fast as zb is. (answering a statement that SC is slow or something) I understand that LC is in alpha stage but I still don't get it. It's the tools behavior that matters more than anything else. It's a sculpting room, you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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